If you play a pioneering role in energy transition and are keen to be an example for other organisations in the Netherlands, this affects your housing policy. Network manager Alliander therefore embarked on the renovation of its head office Bellevue in Arnhem based on the new principles. With amazing results. Ton Bernts from Alliander talks to René Hekman from Strukton Worksphere: a discussion about co-creation and focusing on output.